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Conspiracy of Goodness Podcast

Jun 15, 2021

Our thought leader of the day is Jordan Schwartz, a believer of the “Hive Mind” as a strategy for leaders to grow their teams and businesses. The Hive Mind simply refers to the collective intelligence or consciousness of a group of people. Drawing lessons from beehives and ant colonies, Jordan leads his team in implementing his many endeavors, including Pathable, an event app and website channel for conferences and other virtual events. 

Listen to Jordan and learn how to lead like a bee!

[00:01 - 05:06] Opening Segment 

  • I introduce Jordan Schwartz
  • What happened to his business when COVID-19 hit?
    • Growing his team from 20 to hundreds 

[05:07 - 16:55] The Hive Mind 

  • Biomimicry
    • Hive mind
    • Observing bees
    • Communicating with a hive of bees - “I mean you no harm” by walking and interacting with it so it learns it isn’t a threat
    • Colonies in our lives
  • Helpers
    • Look for the helpers
    • Jordan worked in Microsoft for 10 years then started a business
    • 12 Years ago went to virtual workplace
    • Virtual workplace allowed employee selections from the world, not just local
    • Healthy flow of information
  • Caring about each other
    • Created a culture to be fulfilling and rewarding to help others
    • Preserving other’s dignity

[16:56 - 32:55] Culture of Relationships 

  • Culture around relationships
  • The truth about vulnerability 
  • The Edge of disaster/Pandemic Changes
    • How his team adjusted during the pandemic
    • Went through the processes

[32:56 - 42:03] Zoom With No Video 

  • Dr. Wooley-Baker Episode mention
  • Hiring for their talents then making them conform to the system
  • Instead create a place where people can self organize
  • Building a team/hiring
    • Differences in hiring a virtual team
    • Getting them to make videos of themselves
    • Video pieces of hiring critical - you can see them
    • Never turned a camera on Zoom in beginning
  • Zoom without video
    • They felt it was intrusive
    • When they turned on cameras there was a magic moment of delight seeing a person for the first time
    • Relationships were more meaningful with cameras on
    • Asked people silver lining of pandemic

[42:04 - 56:24] Digital Nomads 

  • The silver lining Jordan realized from the COVID-19 pandemic 
  • Create systems as leaders that inspire
    • Communicating with clarity
  • Digital Nomads
    • Working from anywhere in the world
    • Seeing it as more than acceptable but also desirable
    • Post covid
    • Playing with the idea of allowing people who are adopting a nomadic lifestyle to continue to have social experiences
    • Pay attention to the wonder and delight

[56:25- 59:47] Closing Segment 

  • Connect with Jordan 
    • Links below
  • Final announcements 


Tweetable Quotes:

“It was important and rewarding for people to help each other. There’s no point system for helping somebody...” - Jordan Schwartz

“I like the word ‘wonder’ because it has [a] little bit of curiosity, it has discovery....” - Jordan Schwartz


Resources Mentioned:


Email to reach out to Jordan or connect with him on LinkedIn. Check out Hive Mind to know more about his work. 


Conspiracy of Goodness Links:

Conspiracy of Goodness Network 

Conspiracy of Goodness on Instagram 

Dr. Lynda's Book: 

Ever Widening Circles 


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