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Conspiracy of Goodness Podcast

Apr 14, 2021

We welcome back Karl Sona to talk about disruptive mindsets and actions that he thinks can “level up” the way people are interacting with one another. He lays out a few interesting ideas, among which are about friction, convergence, and active learning. He believes that friction is our friend and that convergence can bring a lot of positive difference to the world soon.

Karl also believes that active learning is already a form of action, veering us away from the usual shouting and screaming that we’ve probably gotten accustomed to due to the media we consume. 

Karl is the co-founder of Streamlined Podcasts, which helps podcasters in producing their shows, allowing them to focus on what they do best: sharing their voices to the world. 


Tune in now and learn from Karl how to disrupt the status quo!

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[00:01 - 04:49] Opening Segment

  • Let’s welcome back Karl Sona
  • What’s the “Dear Black CEO Project?” 

[04:50 - 15:07] Convergence and Disruption 

  • Listen to Karl’s thoughts about homogeneity in the workplace
  • What we can learn from the idea of “convergence” 
  • Look at problems as opportunities 
    • Karl tells us how
  • We exchange ideas about the people’s notion of friction
    • Friction is our friend 
  • How to handle stereotypes according to Karl 

[15:08 - 25:10] Active Learning 

  • Stop the shouting and screaming
    • What to do instead? 
  • Victimhood is a very serious identity 
    • How to change the “victim mindset”
  • Learn more about the “Snowball Effect”
  • Active learning is a form of action for Karl
    • He tells us why
  • Karl shares his interesting thoughts about “white guilt”

[25:11 - 36:38] Protecting Your Dignity 

  • We talk about how to protect your dignity 
  • Join the Conspiracy of Goodness Network!
    • Link below 
  • What we need to have before making generalizations 
  • Listen to our exchange about the dangers of mass media and social media 
  • Looking at the other person’s “deeper truth”

[36:39 - 46:24] Uncomfortable Positions 

  • Karl breaks down how he practices stoicism 
  • What people are not conditioned to do according to Karl
  • Why you should put yourself in uncomfortable positions 

[46:25- 52:33] Closing Segment

  • The power of having a conversation with people 
  • Connect with Karl. Links below
  • Final words and announcements 


Tweetable Quotes:

“Disruption ultimately comes from novelty and from just the difference of thought.” -  Karl Sona

“Go slowly and just dare to be courageous. Just dare and lean into it.” -  Karl Sona


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Follow Karl on Instagram, Facebook, and LinkedIn and check out his website to learn more about his work. Watch out for his new podcast, Dear Black CEO. 


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